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互聯網將進入新時代。英國《泰晤士報》報道，全球10萬部電腦將合組成新型互聯網Grid，大幅提升網上下載速度，在未來，只需數秒就可下載一套電影或多個音樂專輯。Grid更可用來處理大量數據，加快找到醫治惡疾的方法；視像通話收費也有望與本地電話費相若。
10萬部電腦合成 連接粒子撞擊機
Grid是歐洲核子研究組織研製出的新型網絡，成本約5億歐元（約56億港元），將與瑞士的大型粒子撞擊機連接，讓歐洲核子研究組織能夠利用這些位於33個國家、數以萬計的電腦資源，處理由粒子撞擊機產生的龐大數據。粒子撞擊機每年產生15PB（即1500萬GB）龐大數據，相當於2000萬隻CD的容量，單一部電腦絕無足夠能力處理。
歐洲核子研究網織科學家瓊斯（Bob Jones）說﹕「互聯網用家可從其他電腦取得資訊，而Grid除了可讓用家取得資訊外，更可利用其他電腦資源。」
加速禽流感 瘧疾藥物研究
Grid的首要任務是處理粒子撞擊機的數據，以證實希格斯玻色子（Higgs Boson）存在。Grid除了可應用於粒子物理學，亦可用於研究禽流感及瘧疾等惡疾，「Grid不能找出治癌方法，但能加快找到」。瓊斯指以往需10年時間處理的數據，現在只需數星期。格拉斯哥大學物理學教授布里頓（David Britton）表示，傳統找出治病方法是在實驗室混合藥物，現在科學家可用Grid進行模擬實驗，快速地篩選可能有效的藥物，讓研究員縮窄臨床測試的範圍。
Grid暫時主要針對要處理龐大數據的大型科研項目或工程，但科學家相信，Grid最終可應用於家庭電腦。
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"格拉斯哥大學物理學教授布里頓（David Britton）表示，傳統找出治病方法是在實驗室混合藥物，現在科學家可用Grid進行模擬實驗，快速地篩選可能有效的藥物，讓研究員縮窄臨床測試的範圍"。
First, we don't mix drugs in the lab. Not all drugs are mixed.
Secondly, it doesn't work this way, there are too many cellular pathways that can't be simulated because no one understand all at least in the next hundred years.
Thirdly, before clinical studies there are other tests such as in vitro, in vivo, and toxicity test to be done that cannot be simulated also.
First, we don't mix drugs in the lab. Not all drugs are mixed.
Secondly, it doesn't work this way, there are too many cellular pathways that can't be simulated because no one understand all at least in the next hundred years.
Thirdly, before clinical studies there are other tests such as in vitro, in vivo, and toxicity test to be done that cannot be simulated also.
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sbod
篇報導 或者 David Britton 都無咁o既意思. 你中文差, 我唔怪你.sn-10 寫:Not all drugs are mixed.
之前都有唔少專家都對未來事件作出錯誤預測, 例如電腦的普及......sn-10 寫:Secondly, it doesn't work this way, there are too many cellular pathways that can't be simulated because no one understand all at least in the next hundred years.
專家都尚且會出錯, 何況係......
Do you choose to belief in Bob Jones, the one who is working in a world-class team, or choose to belief some statements being by an anonymous in the web?
You should judge, and judge right. LOL.
), 都有機會用到大型電腦甚至 Grid 的. 老一代的人也許會覺得不可思異呢.-
sbod
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sbod
Sounds like those people who made the above comment don't understand what I was talking about. Anyway, they are physicists, I'm a biologist, the other guy is nothing.xiaoer 寫:其實GRID已經行左好多年，SETI, EINSTEIN@HOME都係GRID的例子。
Anyway, thanks for sharing and pointing me to the right direction.
By the way, I'm a pharmacologist, as well as a molecular geneticist. I think I'm qualified to judge at least in this simple concept.
My final comment is: No matter how powerful a computer is, it cannot simulate something we don't know what is actually happening. Drug-drug, drug-DNA, drug-protein interactions are not that simple to be simulated (if you really understand). There are many other components in the pathway involved.
The conclusion is: the author of this article has given a bad example.
P.S. 某人話呢個forum冇人share, 但佢本人根本咩都唔知, 知少少扮代表, 出言態度極差, 試問仲邊有人會係度share。
講到尾, 神又係佢, 害群之馬又係佢。
最後由 sn-10 於 週三 01 10月, 2008 10:42 編輯，總共編輯了 1 次。
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sbod
一個不知名"學者"居然夠膽行出來否定權威, 佢肯定以為自己真係好PRO.
有時間唔做研究唔寫論文唔出席學術會議, 但就有咁多時間上來晒學歷, 同我地呢班凡夫俗子講理論, 一有機會就出POST 串人撩事鬥非. 一個學者居然淪落到呢個地步, 實在可悲, 可悲!
我係唔係nothing 唔重要, 我只知道佢唔係everything.
佢平日會唔會拎自己個XX學家頭銜走去踢館, 企圖打底晒數學家, 音樂家, 政治家...... 呢?
When and where did he get his degree? 現在仲有無做研究?
第一個reply 分明存心攪事, 居然仲夠膽話人出言態度極差, 知少少扮代表...... 其實出言態度極差, 最鐘意扮o野的正正是......
有時間唔做研究唔寫論文唔出席學術會議, 但就有咁多時間上來晒學歷, 同我地呢班凡夫俗子講理論, 一有機會就出POST 串人撩事鬥非. 一個學者居然淪落到呢個地步, 實在可悲, 可悲!
我係唔係nothing 唔重要, 我只知道佢唔係everything.
佢平日會唔會拎自己個XX學家頭銜走去踢館, 企圖打底晒數學家, 音樂家, 政治家...... 呢?
When and where did he get his degree? 現在仲有無做研究?
第一個reply 分明存心攪事, 居然仲夠膽話人出言態度極差, 知少少扮代表...... 其實出言態度極差, 最鐘意扮o野的正正是......
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