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Chanlunlun

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發表 發表於: 星期五 01 四月, 2005 22:39    文章主題: The making of 30 in telescope - 8, rough grinding over 引言回覆回頂端

Dear ATMs,

I am often asked whether amateur telescope maker are doing crazy thing. My answer is – yes, we are!. Things get incredibly crazy.

What takes months to accomplish we make it in just a few days, thanks to the crazy human fresh grinding machine. Today, after a total of 39 working hours the mirror blank finally received its f/3.3 curve. Rough grinding was over.

There are altogether 200 cubic inches, or about 16 lbs, of solid glass has be removed away from the mirror blank. ( If we also count the glass removed from the tool, we totally remove over 30 lbs of glass away !!!. That sounds really crazy. ). We have passed the toughest part of 30 inch mirror making.

Below are some statistics :-

Amount of #40 grit used : 60 lbs.
Final focal length of mirror after rough grinding : 99 inches, f/3.3
Depth of concave surface at center : 14.4 mm
Thicknes of mirror blank at center : 9.9 mm
Final weight of mirror blank, after rough grinding : 40 lbs.
Total construction cost, up to now : HKD 3074

Shaping of the mirror will be commenced tomorrow. At the moment everything is running extremely smooth. We are running ahead of schedule.

Human fresh is actually very powerful machine. It transforms hamburger into working force magnificently.


Best regards
Chan Yuk Lun
1-4-2005



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發表 發表於: 星期五 01 四月, 2005 23:12    文章主題: Re: The making of 30 in telescope - 8, rough grinding over 引言回覆回頂端

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Thicknes of mirror blank at center : 9.9 mm


Shocked Shocked Shocked
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發表 發表於: 星期五 01 四月, 2005 23:25    文章主題: 引言回覆回頂端

忽發奇想!
如果主鏡中心開個洞做個卡式,一定可以做到一個高速太陽燒烤爐! Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
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發表 發表於: 星期五 01 四月, 2005 23:38    文章主題: Re: The making of 30 in telescope - 8, rough grinding over 引言回覆回頂端

豆豸苗 寫到:
Chanlunlun 寫到:
Thicknes of mirror blank at center : 9.9 mm


Shocked Shocked Shocked


Dear Miss BeanKitty,

Yes, that's what I call carzy.

May be this is a record of the thinnest 30 inch mirror in the world.

Best regards
Chan Yuk Lun
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發表 發表於: 星期五 01 四月, 2005 23:40    文章主題: 引言回覆回頂端

Wah! 寫到:
忽發奇想!
如果主鏡中心開個洞做個卡式,一定可以做到一個高速太陽燒烤爐! Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing



Agree!
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註冊時間: 2004-09-30
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發表 發表於: 星期六 02 四月, 2005 12:53    文章主題: 引言回覆回頂端

9.9m....我發夢都想不到這數字出現於Thicknes of mirror blank at center ....

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Tarepanda

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來自: 香港


發表 發表於: 星期日 03 四月, 2005 00:13    文章主題: 引言回覆回頂端


搬動時不就要很小心羅?
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發表 發表於: 星期日 03 四月, 2005 09:18    文章主題: 引言回覆回頂端

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搬動時不就要很小心羅?


Dear Mr. Tarepanda,

Yes indeed. After rough grinding the weight of the mirror blank reduces by a greart deal. Now one student is abel to lift up the whole blank. It is much easier to transport the mirror now compared to a week ago when rough grinding had not been started.

Of course we need to watch out during transportation. Actually we do not wash the mirror, we do not leave the mirror out of the table at all except for measurement of curvature.

Best regards
Chan Yuk Lun
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發表 發表於: 星期日 03 四月, 2005 10:14    文章主題: 引言回覆回頂端

咁幼磨時可唔可以唔洗鏡? Confused
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sodium

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發表 發表於: 星期日 03 四月, 2005 13:16    文章主題: Re: The making of 30 in telescope - 8, rough grinding over 引言回覆回頂端

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豆豸苗 寫到:
Chanlunlun 寫到:
Thicknes of mirror blank at center : 9.9 mm


Shocked Shocked Shocked


Dear Miss BeanKitty,

Yes, that's what I call carzy.

May be this is a record of the thinnest 30 inch mirror in the world.

Best regards
Chan Yuk Lun

走火入魔XDDDD
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發表 發表於: 星期日 03 四月, 2005 16:37    文章主題: 引言回覆回頂端

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咁幼磨時可唔可以唔洗鏡? Confused


Dear Miss BeanKitty,

In fine grinding we never wash the mirror, except in changing a finer grade of carbo.

As you can imagine the process of washing the mirror, when at as such aperture, is a big and time consuming business. It's not justified to spend time and effort to just "wash the mirror clean" . We better avoid it if it could be avoided.

Best regards
Chan Yuk Lun
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發表 發表於: 星期一 04 四月, 2005 00:24    文章主題: 引言回覆回頂端

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...In fine grinding we never wash the mirror, except in changing a finer grade of carbo.

As you can imagine the process of washing the mirror, when at as such aperture, is a big and time consuming business. It's not justified to spend time and effort to just "wash the mirror clean" . We better avoid it if it could be avoided.

Best regards
Chan Yuk Lun


明白, 但唔洗鏡如何檢查砂眼呢? 或如何知道幾時要轉砂? Confused
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發表 發表於: 星期一 04 四月, 2005 00:26    文章主題: Re: The making of 30 in telescope - 8, rough grinding over 引言回覆回頂端

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走火入魔XDDDD


嘩. sodium 突然浮番上來呢~~ Shocked
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發表 發表於: 星期一 04 四月, 2005 08:33    文章主題: 引言回覆回頂端

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明白, 但唔洗鏡如何檢查砂眼呢? 或如何知道幾時要轉砂? Question


Dear Miss BeanKitty,

As mirror washing is a big business we never inspect "holes" on the mirror surface except when time comes we change into a finer grade of carbo. Only at this instance do we wash clean the whole mirror blank and only then do we have a chance to inspect the mirror surface.

We fine grind each grade of carbo for 2 hours, which is suficient to gurantee a fine enough surface and after two hours of fine grainding we change into a finer grade with or without inspection. We normally discover one or two "holes" on the mirror surface but it doesn't matter since they will eventually gone after 1200 or 2000 carbo.

Best regards
Chan Yuk Lun
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